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A: Matthew 18:15-20 - Community guidelines - 23rd Sunday in Ordinary TimePerhaps 
one of the first impressions of this passage is the rather legalistic overtones. 
A lengthy process is outlined for dealing with someone, a brother or sister, from 
the community who has done the wrong thing. The most important perspective we 
bring to our reading is that this is a Christian community. This is a community 
formed through love and bound together as children of God, a community that sets 
itself above secular norms. So, 
despite being legalistic it is worth considering how this problem of wrong doing 
is approached. Firstly, it is quietly done, one on one, and it is not until other 
measures have failed that it becomes public. What is at stake is the good of the 
community and the care that community shows for people who make mistakes. It is 
clear that there is a responsibility of the community for the moral well being 
of members of the community but this must be handled carefully. Something we saw 
taken to an extreme during centuries of the Spanish Inquisition.  The 
language used throughout the passage is relational. We are brother and sister 
in Christ through our Baptism and so we must go to whatever lengths are required 
to solve problems, disputes and arguments. Our focus must always be on reconciliation. 
Jesus gives this directive to all of the disciples not just a chosen few, but 
all who call themselves followers of Jesus, the Christ, so they (men and women) 
were given the same power as Peter with "whatever you bind on earth
" 
Everyone in the community is responsible for dispute resolution so that peace 
is supreme. Jesus is giving 
guidelines to the community, the same community that we hold as our forebears 
and so we must remember to hold the letter of the law in tandem with the Spirit 
of the law when we make decisions in our community today. Jesus is promising to 
be present in the Church whenever we turn to him for guidance and so our hearts 
are filled with joy as we remember "for where two or three meet in my name, 
I shall be there with them." Sometimes 
the decisions and concerns for the future of the Church can appear to be overwhelming, 
especially as we are facing such rapid change. Today's passage is very timely 
as it reminds us that we are people who have every reason to be filled with hope 
and joy. Jesus exclaims "if two of you on earth agree to ask anything at 
all, it will be granted to you by my Father in heaven." So, go ahead, agree 
and ask. Cate 
Mapstone Year C: Luke 14:25-33 
- The cost of discipleship - 23rd Sunday in Ordinary TimeInitially, 
the language used in this explanation of discipleship is confronting because Jesus 
asks anyone who will follow him to hate everyone else, to put aside their possessions 
and to carry their cross. Not an attractive proposition on the face of it. As 
1st world English speaking people of the third millennium we also lack insight 
into 1st century Mediterranean language and culture.  Jesus 
is speaking very plainly to the great crowds who were following him, many in the 
hope that he would be the Messiah to overthrow the Roman occupation and most without 
any insight into what will happen in Jerusalem. Jesus is asking anyone seeking 
to be his disciple to make a choice. With the language limitations, when you choose 
one thing (Jesus), than the word 'hate' is the alternative.  The 
Greek meaning is more about preference but translates into hate. It is at times 
like this that people who use the Bible for fundamentalist interpretation comes 
unstuck. Jesus is not literally saying that you must hate your family, it is more 
about choosing to be a follower of Jesus. Luke is writing to a community that 
includes people who have lost their family and their family possessions because 
they chose to be disciples. There 
is a cost involved in becoming a disciple and so Jesus uses two parables to illustrate 
the importance of reflection before taking action. Those who want to follow Jesus 
must weigh up the costs. Jesus uses some unpleasant pictures of a builder and 
a king who need to reflect on their planning so as to avoid humiliation. In an 
"honour and shame" society, humiliation is to be avoided at all costs. Jesus 
wants a full hearted response to discipleship. Jesus wants total commitment. In 
a way it is like the vows we take for marriage "for better or worse, for 
richer and poorer, in sickness and in health
" Jesus is asking us how 
much we love him. Will we love God only when we think are prayers are being answered, 
or as long as we have a comfortable life? Or are we fully committed to God and 
do we show that by the lives we live, by the choices we make? Jesus 
makes it clear that all disciples will make sacrifices if we are to follow Jesus 
through to the end, even if this means the sacrifice of all our possessions. This 
is not the first time that Jesus is teaching us about detachment to possessions, 
it is a recurrent theme across the Christian Scriptures. It is up to each of us 
to reflect on where we place our focus.
 Cate 
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